Showing posts with label 10 year cycle. Show all posts
Showing posts with label 10 year cycle. Show all posts

Sunday, February 27, 2011

The long cycles

I mentioned the Juglar cycle in my last post.  It is supposedly 7-11 years.  I find that much variance to be too large to be helpful, so I am not including it.  As an economic cycle I will (for the time being) assume the 10 year cycle is the resulting cycle in the stock market.

The 10 year cycle may actually be 10-10.5 years (120-126 months).  My reasoning is that it is 3 Kitchin cycles in length.   Most people refer to the Kitchin Cycle as 41 or 42 months.  One authority claims it is 40.68 months. that is about  122 months or 10 years and 2 months. If the Kitchin cycle  is 42 months then 3 cycles is 10 years 6 months (126 months or 10.5 years).

Each Kitchin cycle is composed of 9 Wall cycles of 20 weeks.  An average month is 30.42 days (365 / 12).  So a Kitchin cycle is  1237. 5 days (40.68 X 30.42) to  1277.6 days (42 X  30.42).  A Wall cycle is 140 days (20 X 7). That means 9 wall cycles is  1260 days.  We have 1237.5 days (Kitchin cycle of 40.68 months), 1260 days (9 Wall cycles), 1277.6 days (Kitchin cycle of 42 months). 

So lets go with 41 months for the length of a Kitchin cycle (1247 days).  If there is 3 Kitchin cycles in our 10+ year cycle that is 3744 days (3 X 1247 + 2 leap days).  Since 10 years is 120 months which is   3652.4 days (120 x 30.42 + 2 leap days).  That  is 92 days (3 months) less than 3744 days.  So that makes the 10+ year cycle 10 years and 3 months long. 

Let's review: 
  • The Wall cycle is 20 weeks. There are 9 Wall cycles in Kitchin cycle.
  • The Kitchin cycle is 41 months long.  There are 3 Kitchin cycles in the 10+ year cycle.  This 10+ year cycle may be the Juglar cycle?
  • The 10+ year cycle is 10 years and 3 months long.
  • Three 10+ year cycles  30.75 years or equal a Supercycle.
  • Six 10+ year cycles is 61.5 years or a KWave
Note:  A Supercycle is 2 Kuznets cycles  in length - so a Kuznets cycle is about 15.37 years (or 1.5 time the 10+ year cycle.)

We see from this each cycle is a multiple of a shorter cycle.  With this in mind  I redid the chart for the very long cycles and updated my prior post.   Here is my latest attempt to chart the 10+ year, Kitchin and and Wall cycles (as they fit into the context of the longer cycles):


Traders enjoy.  Please do your own analysis.  Later we may look at even shorter cycles and see if they are factors of the Wall cycle.

Sunday, January 23, 2011

kitchin and wall cycle continued...

The Kitchin cycle at 42 months is approximately 1/3 of a 10 year cycle (3 x 42 = 126 months or 10.5 years).  If we use the Dewey cycle length instead (40.68 months) it is even closer (3 x 40.68 =  122.04 months).  So maybe the 10 year cycle is really 10.17 years? Lets look at this graphically:

Now this is interesting.  A Kitchin cycle starts about the same point as the 10 year cycle does in 2002 and ends about the same point as the 10 year cycle does in 2012.  So it appears the Kitchin cycle is 1/3 of a 10 year cycle?  Drilling down the a Kitchin third is 1/3 of a Kitchin cycle:



Drilling down further the Wall cycle (20 weeks) is 1/3 of a Kitchin Third (or 1/9 a Kitchin cycle).  See for yourself:


As a result you have the 10 year, the Kitchin, the Kitchin Third, and The Wall cycle bottoming together in 2012 (just as they did in 2002).  And this my friends does not look good for the year 2012.

Continuing this - what is 1/3 of 20 weeks.  20 weeks is 100 trading days so 1/3 is 33.33 days or what I commonly call the 33-34TD cycle.   Here is how it looks graphically:


Now 1/3 of 33 is 11.  So is there an 11TD cycle?  Lots look at a chart:



Cliff Drokes (cycle authority) claims the 30 year cycle is one of the more important cycles (3 x 10 year).  So lets summarize what we have learned.  From the Kitchin cycle using multiples of 3 or factors of 3 we have the 30 year cycle, the 10 year cycle, the 3.33 year cycle (approximately), the 14 month cycle, the 20 week cycle, the 34Td cycle and finally the 11TD cycle.  In all my reading of cycles I have never seen all these different cycles related to the Kitchin cycle this way.

Gl traders.  Your thoughts appreciated (pro and con).